Sigh, thats right though. DO those numbers MEAN anything? Why dont we just say "Hey, the P4 is 2.0 Ghz and the XP is only 1.66 Ghz" OK, P4 WINS!!! We could simplify the whole proccess. My point was never which one is better. It was what benchmarks actually translate into actual perfromance on a machine, in a Game, App, Database...anything. And the Sandra memory benchmark doesnt translate anywhere to anything. And BTW, the xp 2000+ does beat the P4 2.0 in almost every REAL world benchmark (such as games and winstones). Only thing I have seen the P4 do better is real time encoding, which is where its higher number crunching actually does pay off (but still has nothing to do with its memory bandwidth). Intel makes some good chips, and features like heat throttling are way ahead of AMD, but in pure speed the AMD chips are just a small margin ahead (for comparable chips). You can't deny that anywhere.

Josh
(Running an XP2000+ unlocked AND a Piii 850)