with the next gen console's about to flood the market with the i can do this better, who do you think will be the one to beat and why ....

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April 11, 2001

MSNBC ran an article this morning with a completely new perspective on the next-generation console wars. The story simply reads, "Amazing as it sounds, Nintendo may have been right all along -- GameCube very well may be the winning system of the 128-bit generation." Included are a few quotes from industry analysts that are very pro-Nintendo. One anonymous developer even commented, "I did not know what to expect when I began work on GameCube. The graphics surprised us. They were better than we expected,... better than what we have seen on PlayStation 2 or Xbox."
No doubt as E3 gets closer Nintendo's powerful influence on the industry is being sensed again. Much of the mainstream press which has written Nintendo off in light of a lack of solid details and insight, is now taking a serious look at Nintendo's strategy. It's a powerful one indeed, but Nintendo has a lot to prove at the Expo. Its philosophy revolves around new videogame experiences and a wide-variety at that. Depending on what happens at E3 some of the fickle press may quickly jump to Nintendo's ship.

All this remains to be seen, but no one can argue that Nintendo's presence at E3 is one that is being watched closely by all.



original post from cube.ign.com

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A few things there :

1) Where the heck is the Dreamcast ?

2) I'm never buying a LunchBox (Nintendo's thingie). They usually lack games I like and the thing is UGLY !! [ plus, hard to pirate ... which is the best way to try before you buy ... seriously ]

3) Xbox ? I want to try that one, may be good, may be bad

4) PS2 : so far, the games don't look all that interesting

So, I'll stay with my DC and PSX for now, they are just the thing I need to fill time

PS : Castlevania : SoTN still kicks ass

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While forcing shareware may be helpful, you do have to admit that between the three systems (All of which have DVD software, I might add), none of them are especially crackable. The PS2 may be a bit more than the rest, but only if you're using blue-disc PS2 CDs and not DVDs. Heh...if you had the resources to make a useable DVD copy, then I doubt you'd be wasting your time with a game console. So cut Nintendo some slack here, as physical media standards can usually be overcome (Take a look at the GD-ROM).Normally, I'd be interested, but Konami's participation worries me. KCET's influence in Japan is high, of course. So, with Konami giving such a large backing to the XBox, why do Japanese business dignitaries still think it will fail? The Japanese typically don't desert their comrades like this. I have to wonder what sort of long-time relationship Konami has with Microsoft. If you think about it, they were involved in the numerous MSX projects back in the day (Hence the originating Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 titles on the MSX). They put through this effort on a system that was certainly not destined to succeed, and why? I question Konami's confidence in this move. It seems more like they're being dragged into it. And I still haven't heard anything out of Square EA, Capcom, Namco, or any of the numerous PC developers. And I think there was a recent xbox.ign article which sums things up rather well - It basically said that by refusing to make available a keyboard and mouse and other PCish periphery, MS is so desperately trying to make sure that people don't think the XBox is a PC that they're going to end up giving it a premature death.Agreed. I've seen a slowdown in framerates down to the 20s while watching a friend play Star Wars Starfighter. What's up with that? I thought this thing was going to be able to push polys like there was no tomorrow. Don't tell me that LucasArts screwed up the software THAT bad. The Bouncer is cool too, but I haven't really seen anything else that perks my interest (Other than titles which don't need to be/won't be PS2-exclusive, such as SSX and Street Fighter EX3).Agreed. I've got about eight or nine PSX RPGs I've yet to play...plus I just got Evolution, Evolution 2, Jet Grind Radio, Sword Beserker, and Sakura Taisen. Yay!Agreed by about 99%. SotN kicks ass, but not as much as Castlevania: Nocturne in the Moonlight, which is the Japanese version available on Saturn and PSX. The Saturn version (better, but *slightly* worse graphics due to incorrectly done transparencies) makes Maria Renard a playable character and offers two more areas to play, including new enemies and items.

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Where do I get Castlevania: Nocturne in the Moonlight ? One annoyance with that game though, Mist + Sword familiar does a good job of slowing down the game, not helping with my careful leveling up of familiars. Plus, the sword is quite dumb, it doesn't actually seek out enemies. Oh well, my ghost, bat and devil are all lvl99

The LunchBox : The media is not really something I care about, it's an annoyance more than anything else. The lack of DVD playback doesn't matter to me. I've got a set top player and one in the comp, and so far the console players aren't all that great.

The problem is with the games ... I'm not one to blindly follow a name or go for the 'better' console. It's the games I care about, they are after all what makes a system great ( if you disagree, please find another hobby ). Nintendo hasn't had many games that interest me lately. The N64 has an awful choice of games as far as I'm concerned. MAybe a few good ones here and there, but not enough to warrant buying the system.

And I'm betting the LunchBox will be the same way. They aim at 12 yrs old kids, which is alright, but they should think more of the older players. I grew up on Nintendo hardware I remember all those nice RPGs, and those other games I played sometimes. Then the PSX came, and I had a good feeling about it, so I bought one (thank goodness I was right ). Some great RPGs were there too, I was happy.

But nowadays, finding really good, long lasting games proves to be harder than ever before.

Pirating : nothing is impossible, that much I learned People will come up with something eventually. I don't care much for it, but it's better than a rental IMHO.

Xbox : it probably won't last too long. M$ should stop caring about what they'll look like and make a killer console with killer games, that matters more than the rest. Of course, they've gotta be careful right now, with all the crap they're facing (some deserved).

PS2 : I actually have yet to try one, partly cause of lack of interest. So far, only SSX seems really interesting to me. But it'd be a rental, not much else I'm betting. I have this weird notion that a game should entertain me for a long while without getting repetitive, few stand up to that standard

Great, now you've reminded me I'v got LOTS of game to play/finish ... I'm screwed now

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ok this is the reason that I left the DREAMCAST off the list is, most game houses have switched from DC to another system, it is still a contender and a powerful one at that, but come on guys even Sega has switched gears and is working on other platforms now, so even Sega see's the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, and after the release of the XBOX(money grubbin gates has to conquer every thing), and the GameCube(will never be able to lose the kiddy image and put out more adult games), I really don't think that there will be much interest in making games for the DC, the interest will be lost except to the hard CORE Sega Fans out there,..... and you all know who you are(getting pissed at this right about now).

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I'm not a Sega fan actually ... far from it. But the DC is a damn sweet console, with LOTs of great games. It's second only to my PSX right now, for reasons of Castlevania

Once I get some time to get back in Grandia II and SoA, the DC will get the upper hand again

The LunchBox I won't get cause of the kiddie image, I get the feeling they're not even trying to somewhat fix that.

The Xbox I damn well hope will work. That or the PS2. One of them has to have interesting games, hence I'll be a sad gamer ... and I'll have to find other things to do

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you know what would be really cool is if more of the DEV houses would come out a produce all of there top sellers for the older systems ... on the newer systems.... i think there are alot of use that like quite a few of the older games that came out on sega and nes ... but these are my thoughts IMHO....

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I completely agree with that !

Many old classics would truly rule if brought back with better graphics (do NOT mess up the story). Final Fantasies done right for example (load times in Anthology are annoying). Dragon Quest too (Dragon Warrior in the US IIRC).

SO many good games could be brought back. Even some PSX ones could do with a facelift [ for example, Castlevania:SoTN with no slow down when mixing the mist shape and the sword familiar ]

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ok this is where i get very humbel and all of you DC owners do the happy dance


Additionally, Sega mentioned at the meeting that by March of 2002, the company will release 65 Dreamcast titles and 53 other titles spread across multiple platforms.

origional posting


running for nearest hole, ....

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That sounds like a great idea

More good games are always a Good Thing (tm)

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ok has anyone checked out what LUCASARTS has comming out this next year ,,,, if not check this out

lucasarts at e3

there are a lot of titles that were slated for the pc that have just Switched Platforms and went to one of the three game systems,....

my thoughts are that i might have to get one of them X-Box(pc clone) that obi-wan looks like it is gonig to be a top game like dark forces was

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does any one else think that there has not really any ad wars out there between the three Giants, i see the basic stuff when i go to a game shop but nothing like with the N64 or PS2,

am i the only one that thinks that this is Strange

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Well, Microsoft is slowly mounting a campaign - Apparently Nintendo sent out some letters to EB/Software Etc./Babbage's asking them to come to their senses and stop taking pre-orders for XBox consoles when they're still a couple months from launch...

Otherwise, I think the ad war is coming very soon. With all three consoles pitched HARD this Christmas, they're gonna be on the same playing field. Yeah, the PS2 has been out a year, but honestly...other than PS1 games, HOW many compelling titles are there for the PS2? There's FFX and GT3Aspec. What else is there? They're all gonna be starting from the same position...