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08-09-01, 07:44 PM
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08-09-01, 07:50 PM
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Great Mod!!!
hey this is one of the best Mods that i have see in a long time...
It is really good pics etc....
Is it possible to buy a G4 case with out getting the entire system??
I would definately put some money and time in to trying this out just for the hell of it.... :-)~
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08-09-01, 07:52 PM
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Well, we got the case without the 'puter  Apparently a lot of Mac fans failed to remember that....
Either the last page, or second to last page should describe how it might be possible to get one.
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08-09-01, 07:59 PM
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What a waste
Gods... a PC in a Mac case... with a FLOPPY DRIVE... this is taking the "Windows 95 = Mac OS 1.0" thing waaaay too far.
I expect a kind of reverse "Raiders of the Lost Ark" to happen here. Remember when the Ark burned off the Nazi swastika when it was placed in the crate? That was the power of "God" destroying evil. I expect those PC parts to burn off the Apple logos any day now, thanks to the power of "Evil Inside".
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08-09-01, 08:01 PM
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What is it about people and their religious views of their computer parts?
I've used both platforms, and there are things I love/hate about both of them.
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08-09-01, 08:07 PM
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Re: What a waste
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Originally posted by PopeZaphod
Gods... a PC in a Mac case... with a FLOPPY DRIVE... this is taking the "Windows 95 = Mac OS 1.0" thing waaaay too far.
I expect a kind of reverse "Raiders of the Lost Ark" to happen here. Remember when the Ark burned off the Nazi swastika when it was placed in the crate? That was the power of "God" destroying evil. I expect those PC parts to burn off the Apple logos any day now, thanks to the power of "Evil Inside".
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Pope, this was too funny  .
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08-09-01, 08:11 PM
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Well at least you can view his pictures.
pic links go here
And, oh yeah, his works
Day 13 - 7.30.01
Still waiting on that motherboard but i did get the Duron and Coolmaster in the mail today.Oh man I can't wait to pop this stuff in. I really need this machine up and running too, I'm planning on it being the server for the upcoming LAN party im hosting.
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08-09-01, 08:22 PM
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lg4
if your gonna be so anal about it ill update it fool, so i cant get my hands on a scanner, shoot me. i work a 50 hour week, im sorry i cant work on the fucking thing all day long, yeah its not done, but the way its built is better, and i have all of the bezel pieces and all of the power buttons work like on a real g4, flame me if you want, i dont care, it was mine first.
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08-09-01, 08:34 PM
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Fool's
The G4 is Great You Pc Sucks!!!! You suck!!!!!! The G$ Rules
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08-09-01, 08:46 PM
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I don't get it, some one does something cool and he gets flamed for it... he didn't do it to make fun of macs, he didn't do it to say PCs are better than Macs, he just did it because the idea is cool...
I mean the G4 case looks better than most PC cases, and I don't know of any case manufacturer that makes a PC case like that... so it makes sense if he wanted to put a PC in there. He didn't do it because he wanted to make a fast machine in there, he did it just to get a PC in to a G4 case. If he gets a better motherboard that fits, he'll do that... but that motherboard was al lhe had.
as for Nexus having the idea first... good for you. Drew came up with it on his own, doesn't mean he stole it from you. Hell I was thinking about it the first time I saw the G4 case, you don't see me saying shit man you stole my ideaa!!! wahhh!!!
I mean come on grow up. It was his first mod, and it's a damn cool one at that. I don't see what all the fuss is about... people just get worked up over nothing... or just looking to start flame wars...
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08-09-01, 08:58 PM
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Re: lg4
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Originally posted by Unregistered
if your gonna be so anal about it ill update it fool, so i cant get my hands on a scanner, shoot me. i work a 50 hour week, im sorry i cant work on the fucking thing all day long, yeah its not done, but the way its built is better, and i have all of the bezel pieces and all of the power buttons work like on a real g4, flame me if you want, i dont care, it was mine first.
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Ok the gloves come off. Shall we look at what you've done so far to back up your claim? Ok.
The only thing on your site, well the G4 one anyway, is a couple of empty case pictures. Alright. You mention that you will be installing a variant of Linux on your system. Ours was Windows 98. BTW - my favorite quote from this article was "...the power button on the G4 now should power up the computer and the reset JUST like a normal G4". I hope you noted the word should in bold - instills confidence in your technical ability doesn't it? You also mention that you shorted out your first motherboard so therefore had to order another. So far it sounds better right? Your last entry, dated 7/30, was that you are waiting for another board to come. The End.
So now describe to me how is yours better? Oh yeah, I forgot that you had the bezels waiting to be installed. Maybe you had the idea first but how do you know for sure? It seems like you started this project on 7/02. How do you know for sure when we started?
I'm sure you do work a 50 hour week but isn't it a little presumptuous to assume that we don't? Most of us work and go to college full time as well as take the time to do work like this.
As far as you saying that our website sucks, have you taken a look at yours lately? We, at least, have content on ours. http://www.nexuspctech.com/html/index.html
The flash site is even better. http://www.nexuspctech.com/html/404.html
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08-09-01, 09:00 PM
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Hey, a post that's worth reading!
Now here's an idea: objectivity!
I'll admit that I think the Mac is far superior to the PC. If I didn't, I wouldn't be writing this on my G4 running Mac OS X. (The PC has a couple virtues... expandability, keyboard control over the OS...)
But, nobody involved in this project said anything to the contrary! So I won't argue that point.
Some suggestions:
To the best of my knowledge, Apple keyboards and mice are fully standards compliant. For $60 each retail (you can probably find them for less), get yourself an Apple Pro Keyboard and Pro Mouse. They're sweet. No, actually, don't get a Pro Mouse, it doesn't have a right button (Macs use a control-click instead, or if you're me, you get a third-party trackball with three buttons). Go with a Logitech, Kensington, or MS optical mouse. Personally, I like Kensingtons.
Try to get your hands on the Apple bezel for an internal Zip drive -- I bet it will fit your floppy drive nicely, and will improve looks a lot.
Some answers:
No, Mac power supplies are not ATX-compliant. However, I see no reason that you couldn't power the PC with a stock Mac supply (you'd have to get one from your buddy), as somebody else suggested.
I suspect the mysterious three cables are for the reset and interrupt buttons, located below the power button. Reset is on the left, with the triangle. Interrupt is on the right, with the funky wavy line on it. Use Interrupt for whatever you want -- PC's have no equivalent. On the Mac (pre-OS X, it has no function in X), it brings up a kernel-level debugger.
Some comments:
I used to own a Power Mac 6100/66 DOS Compatible. It had a NuBus card (what Macs used before switching to PCI around 1996) with a 486/66 processor on it (that was top of the line at the time), 64MB of RAM, and linkage to the Mac's sound, video, and I/O hardware. A keystroke switched between the Mac and the PC. It used a large file on the Mac hard drive to act as the PC drive (a simple form of a partition). The two systems could copy and paste between each other. The 486 ran Win95 as well as any 486/66 system ever did. Now, that case didn't look anywhere near as cool as the G4 case does, but it's still an awesome idea.
Orange Micro used to make PCI cards with essentially the same function -- I don't know if they're still in business, but they had a lot cooler stuff than what I had. I ought to look into it! I could use a PC once in a while, without giving up the desk space. Whoever said VPC is faster than a normal PC, I'm sorry, but fire up Half Life and tell me that.
Okay, that's enough for now.
-Jake
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08-09-01, 09:02 PM
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Complete Atrocity
What a pathetic waste of a perfectly good mac case. I'm glad to see you completed the wonderful look of the G4 with those AWESOME open-faced beige drives. you could have at least put a ZIP bezel on there (the OEM kind, not the aftermarket open ones that Iomega sends you), and got a mac CD-ROM bezel. hell, that should've CAME with the case.
And what's with this "Macs use PCI slots lately" BS?????
I have a Macintosh Performa 6360 circa 1995, and it has a PCI slot
ATA drives have been around for YEARS in macs, how would Apple make money on building a COMPLETELY foreign architecture?
That was a disgusting article, I'd rather see an iMac turned into an aquarium
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08-09-01, 09:05 PM
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JakeRobb -- Many thanks for the comments/answers/suggestions  Well reasoned, non-immflamatory responses are the easiest to reply to, and improve our work
ryanwilson -- Macs also use the 66mhz PCI slots more frequently than PCs, or so I have been told by a mac friend of mine. I can't verify that (well, I can, but I'm too tired to look it up right now).
I agree with that point, that macs have had PCI slots for quite awhile. However, Apple did use SCSI for a long time.
However, the point of the article wasn't about mac vs. pc...why is everyone bent on that?
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