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01-10-02, 08:12 PM
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ATI Radeon 7500
Post your comments and questions on the ATI Radeon 7500 review.
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01-10-02, 08:48 PM
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...just remember you can't play DVDs on your secondary display so if you're sending the DVD movie out to your TV, DISABLE your monitor so your TV becomes the primary display. 
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01-11-02, 06:23 AM
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You call that a review? 90% of the Information you provided can be found on the ATI website. You don't even mention that when using the TV out for DVD playback you have to make your tv the primary display, and the downsides of that in your article. you post it in the forums as an after thought.
You only provide Quake3 and Evolva for benchmarking. This review is crap. Try expanding on the Benchmarks...maybe covering a little bit of overclocking. Do something thats actually informative. After reading this review the only impression I get is you were happy you got some free hardware, and that you didn't want to be critical becuase you were afraid you wouldn't get another free peice of hardware. Lame.
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01-11-02, 07:13 AM
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You've got the pricing all wrong, dude
The GF3 ti 200 is atleast $40 more then the radeon 7500. Go to price watch and check it out. If you put gf 3 ti 200 in, the inno3d is the cheapest, and it's $151. The cheapest Radeon 7500 is $91 and dropping, god, do some editing, your giving a false impression of which cards this one is supposed to be in the same price bracket as.
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01-11-02, 07:51 AM
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I didn't see it mentioned anywhere that the 7500 is 100% DirectX 8 complient. That is a BIG disadvantage to the 7500. Most Ti200's overclock beyond the classic GF3 standards so the Ti200 is just that much more attractive. The primary reason to get a 7500 is dual monitor support and good DVD playback.
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01-11-02, 08:33 AM
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You don't even mention that when using the TV out for DVD playback you have to make your tv the primary display, and the downsides of that in your article. you post it in the forums as an after thought.
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Actually >>I<< posted that. You see, my name is Jonny and Dave did the review. See the names? I only knew this because I've already owned the card (the 8500 actually) for some time and are familiar with it's nuances.
This is an example of why most reviews (motherboards included) regardless fo the website should really just be used as a reference. You wouldn't believe how many motherboards get "rave reviews" that actually suck in real life because the person reviewing it is not using the product 24/7. Of course, when I write a review that pans a product because I deal with them on the thousands, and all of the otehr sites say the product is great, I get flamed.
I personally thought Dave did a good job. Of course, I'm going to be a bit biased too. 
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01-11-02, 10:24 AM
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Ok, first of all, let's be rational and not start flaming wars.
Like Jonny said, <b>he</b> posted that, that was something I hadn't tried and that was his experience with it.
Second, we also used 3DMark 2001. I was trying to get both Wolfenstein MP and Max Payne benchmarks as well but I had problems getting the numbers on each test and I had a timeframe to post this review. For Max Payne, 3 of the cards wouldn't run the benchmark at all and would just exit out of the program while loading. For Wolfenstein MP, I must have downloaded 10 different versions, none of which would run the atdemo6 or atdemo8 tests, yet I have the numbers for every other video card from a recent review on the Xtacy lineup. On the next video card review I will try and get both of those benchmarks working, and should be adding 3D Studio Max to the lineup.
Third, I based my prices on <b>retail</b> prices. For example you go to best buy and how much is the video card. Ti200 from Visiontek: $199. Ti from Visiontek: $149. Radeon 7500: $199. I can't go buy internet prices because their could be things like the card is OEM or not anybody can find that price or any reason like that. That is why I noted in my review twice that it can be found for cheaper on the net and that I had found it for under $110.
Fourth, you are absolutely correct about overclocking, that is something I definitely should have done.
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Notice both those points are in the pros list.
Unregistered, thanks for the criticism, it helps us do better content for future purposes and to fix any mistakes that we have made. Feel free to register though 
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01-11-02, 10:36 PM
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Ok the 7500 at BestBuy is actually 150 dollars and it has been for about a month it says 199 with a 50 instant rebate so the price/perfomance ratio it is a great deal besides i had a geforce2 ti and it did have tv out but the dvd playback to the tv would always have a black border around it and on my Duron 800 i am getting much better benches but there is one downside to the 7500 it is that Nascar4 crashes in direct3d but runs slow in opengl.
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01-12-02, 08:27 AM
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Radeon 7500
What drivers did you use for the 7500? I traded a CL G2 Ultra for my 7500 and I can say your numbers seem low, the 7500 is just as fast as my Ultra was except in Q3, and when you overclock the 7500(mine runs at 325-270) it surpasses the Ultra. Dont get me wrong I loved the Ultra, but the 7500 has alot moore options. Theres nothing like watching a DVD and have your email or IE displayed on the second monitor.
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01-12-02, 02:17 PM
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Well the drivers I used were the 7.60 WHQL drivers...Based on some of the example benchmarks that ATI sent us, our numbers were actually a bit higher then theirs...
Are the numbers I got a lot lower then your 7500 not overclocked? Also, what are your system specs? We tested on a Pentium 4 2GHz.
Feel free to register by the way  That way I'm not talking to an Unregistered 
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01-13-02, 04:51 AM
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Re: Radeon 7500
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What drivers did you use for the 7500? I traded a CL G2 Ultra for my 7500 and I can say your numbers seem low, the 7500 is just as fast as my Ultra was except in Q3, and when you overclock the 7500(mine runs at 325-270) it surpasses the Ultra. Dont get me wrong I loved the Ultra, but the 7500 has alot moore options. Theres nothing like watching a DVD and have your email or IE displayed on the second monitor.
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Don't forget to look at the system as a whole too. Whether it's the CPU or RAM, my Radeon works a hell of a lot better on my P4 1.7 with RIMMs then it does on my Duron 1000 with DDR. 
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01-29-02, 09:53 AM
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I really don't understand why there are still reviewers that still do benchmarks at 640*480 resolution. This is pointless, why should someone be interested in that, I don't know anyone who plays games in that resolution, except those who have a "shittty" computer. I would like to see more reviews that focus on real gaming situations, because thats what this is all about isn't it?
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Does anyone know if the deïnterlacing method also works with DivX?
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01-29-02, 11:28 AM
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Well basically we get all three parts of the resolution spectrum:
640x480 - the minimum
1024x768 - the middle
1600x1200 - the high end
I would be interested in hearing your recommendations and ideas though. Let me know what you had in mind.
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10-14-02, 09:18 PM
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Radeon 7500 Dual Monitors 2000 Sucks!
I have the Radeon 7500 with Windows 2000 and it is terrible with dual monitor support! I have two screens, a 17" LCD and a 15" LCD... With Windows XP, it rocks! The monitors worked SO well with the XP drivers.
I had to remove XP from my machine because frankly Windows XP is the worst. (That is a whole new Thread, and a waste talking about)
Back to the subject... As I went to Windows 2000 I had to install HYDROVISION to manage the two monitors, and it is the worst! You can't have both monitors at different resolutions without problems, and all the APPS will open on both machines. Just a big problem to try to set things up!
They have to do better than that with this software!
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