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02-13-01, 12:25 PM
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Is there a way to network two computers together (I currently have a 5-port hub and both computers have NIC cards), and have them share the internet connection using solely one IP address?
If anybody knows or has any ideas on how I could go about doing this, that would be awesome!
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02-13-01, 02:00 PM
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Well...
One way I can think of is to turn one of them into a proxy server, that would serve IPs to the other comp. You don't need much to do it, so you can probably use an old comp or something and slap some linux on it. A friend of mine did that and actually made the proxy server a firewall as well as the Q2 server in the dorm. As for exactly how to set it up, I have no idea hehe... there is probably a way to do it with windows but I haven't dabbled in that area...
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02-14-01, 10:57 AM
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Network 2 pc's
Actually it's (if you're lucky) dead easy. If you have either windows 2000 or windows 98 on either machine they come equiped with all the software you need to share 1 ip. Internet Connection Sharing it's called. You will however need to install a second nic in the computer you want connected to you'r cable/dsl. (I'm pretty sure this works with dsl anyway) Take your server comp (2 nics) and attach 1 nic to the cable modem and the other nic to you're hub. Now attach your other comp to the hub also. Makes sure that your internet connection is working in the server computer. Now that that's done (windows 98) install ICS Internet Connection Sharing (it's on the cd) run that proggie. With any luck it will configure your second nic to be the nic that tosses ip addresses at the hub (essentially your 98 machine will now act as a DHCP server) Now if you have the second machine set to automatically obtain IP addresses you should be done.
Under windows 2000 it's even easier. Right click network places click on your 1st internet connection (the nic attached to the cable modem) there should be an option to share connection. Click that... AND THAT'S IT! (from what i remember anyway) if anyone sees anything amiss with this post bear with me I'm doing it from memory so cut me slack pls  Again make sure the second comp (and any others attached to the hub) are obtaining their ip addresses via DHCP or else nothing much happens 
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02-14-01, 11:13 AM
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That's what I heard to do as well, guess I'll have to go and buy another NIC card :-( I hope it works though :-) I'll let you guys know.
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02-14-01, 06:54 PM
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oh
I guess if you want to take the easy way out  ... windows does have the internet connection sharing thingy. Out of curiousity why would you need to share an IP anyway when you have a hub already? oh wait... I think I know... never mind
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02-14-01, 07:02 PM
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Is there a more efficient way of doing it?
Because my school only allows 1 IP per wall connection
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02-14-01, 07:09 PM
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well how are the IPs distributed?
I mean my school allows 3 IPs per room, but most of the time we don't even use the assigned IPs. We usually just pick a number and if it's not taken, we just keep using. If it's taken we just find another number... my school doesn't really check. I dunno... the windows sharing thing would probably be the easiest way to go, unless you want to set up a linux proxy server (yea you can use windows too but linux is better)...
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02-15-01, 08:24 AM
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Wouldn't a router dot he trick?
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02-15-01, 10:00 AM
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Well it should do the trick, but because of the way my school sets up the network, it doesn't work. I've heard of people running 2 machines, one with 2 NIC cards (with win2k) and being able to connect the two machines from one wall socket.
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02-15-01, 01:39 PM
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It's easy to do what you want, you need either a hardware router such as the Netgear router reviewed here at systemlogic.net, or you use proxy software and a second NIC card in one of the computers.
As mentioned , Win98 and 2000 come with Internet connection sharing (what MS calls their proxy software).
You can also use the AnalogX proxy, from http://www.analogx.com/contents/dow...twork/proxy.htm
What happens with a proxy is that one NIC on the proxy computer is connected to your ISP or LAN. The outside network sees only that computer.
What you do is set up a second, private network for yourself and plug it into that second NIC. Note that if you directly plug in a second computer you'll need to use a crossover cable. Most people plug a hub into that second NIC on the proxy computer to avoid that hassel. They then hang their private network off that hub.
You either assign fixed IPs to the machines in your private network using a fixed IP allocation (192.x.x.x, 10.x.x.x), or let the proxy assign them using DHCP.
Win98 connection sharing generates an install disk for windows computers on the private network that set the correct network settings.
The proxy program (sometimes called "IP Masquerade") keeps track of connections and forwards packets to the right private network computer transparently.
Web, news, and email work fine, but some net services, such as game servers, may get confused.
I run Win98 connection sharing at home, and find that only 1 computer on the private network can log into battlenet at a time, for example. These is because battle net sees all packets from my private network as coming from the same IP.
BTW, AnalogX is treasure trove of great, free, software.
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02-15-01, 08:44 PM
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Sygate from sygate.com works well. I've been using it over a year and it works great, it does most of the work for you like assigning numbers. Mine is last year's version so the newer one should be even better.
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02-15-01, 10:11 PM
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I just tried AnalogX and that won't work.....
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02-15-01, 10:58 PM
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Just tried Sygate as well, no luck either :-( I think it has something to do with ME.....I'm going to try connecting it to a system here with win2k server on it, and see if that works, I'll keep u guys posted...
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02-16-01, 12:06 AM
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I've had great success setting up a home-network/connection sharing setup @home with Windows 2000 (server). It's RRAS (routing and remote access service) program is MUCH simpler to setup than it was in NT4 (in which case you actually had to download it seperately.)
The only real downside is that you aren't really getting any of the features you might see in some of the other softwares, like pseudo-firewalls, etc.. but if you just wanna share a net connection, Win2k will do you fine. (However, that's ASSUMING you have a legal copy..
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02-20-01, 12:57 PM
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Have you tried internet connection sharing with ME? My roommates and I are using it to share a cable modem connection and it was really easy to set up.
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